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ValaOfTheFens · Oct 10, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Damage +10%...+15% while under the effects of a weapon spell.

I use weapon spells in a number of different classes and so it would be helpful to have a mod like this one. I know its kind of obscure but its a good idea in theory. I'd like this better than 15^50 on my Barrager and I'd actually attack in melee with my Rit.

Good idea or bad idea?

judgedread33 · Oct 10, 2007, 09:35 AM // 09:35

need to be 20% at least because most weapon spells have short durations and those that use to have long ones were nerfed *cough ritspike cough cough*

Onarik Amrak · Oct 10, 2007, 01:59 PM // 13:59

15% makes sense.
20% is only for negative stuff. ie. while Hexed, etc.

ValaOfTheFens · Oct 10, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by judgedread33

need to be 20% at least because most weapon spells have short durations and those that use to have long ones were nerfed *cough ritspike cough cough*

Although most weapon spells have short durations they are also fairly cheap and are easy to keep up at all times. Also, for +20% dmg you need a malus. Example, "Vengeance is Mine" has the malus "when below 50% health".

Deadlyjunk · Oct 10, 2007, 08:34 PM // 20:34

I like it, /signed.
What would the inscription actually be?

"I'm armed!"
or
"My weapon looks like a piece of grey gunk!"?

lyra_song · Oct 10, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

BUT dont weapon spells disable all weapon mods??

Onarik Amrak · Oct 10, 2007, 08:45 PM // 20:45

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

BUT dont weapon spells disable all weapon mods??

Never heard of that before...

Winterclaw · Oct 10, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02

I thought they disabled non-caster weapons' prefix bonus (but not penalty). But maybe that was just item spells.

ValaOfTheFens · Oct 10, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

I like it, /signed.
What would the inscription actually be?

"I'm armed!"
or
"My weapon looks like a piece of grey gunk!"?

Maybe "Armed to the teeth"? *lol*

@lyra: You're thinking of item spells. Weapon spells are just like preparations. They give you an effect for x number of seconds but have no other effects or penalties(unless stated in the description of the spell).

Curse You · Oct 10, 2007, 11:20 PM // 23:20

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Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens

Maybe "Armed to the teeth"? *lol*

@lyra: You're thinking of item spells. Weapon spells are just like preparations. They give you an effect for x number of seconds but have no other effects or penalties(unless stated in the description of the spell).

Speaking of which, I wouldn't mind a damage bonus for having a preparation. Although, it would probably have to be only 10% to keep it balanced since a lot of Preparations already add damage.

HawkofStorms · Oct 11, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Yeah, and a lot of weapon spells also add damage. I find that it might be "unbalanced." You can remove a stance. You can drop somebody's health below 50%. You can't get rid of weapon spells.

Arkantos · Oct 11, 2007, 05:59 AM // 05:59

Does seem a little bit unbalanced seeing as weapon spells cannot be removed. As long as you have someone maintaining a weapon spell on you, you have a permanent +15% damage.

ValaOfTheFens · Oct 11, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Does seem a little bit unbalanced seeing as weapon spells cannot be removed. As long as you have someone maintaining a weapon spell on you, you have a permanent +15% damage.

Yes but you must either always party with a Rit or have Rit as your primary or secondary. I tried giving my Splinter/Barrage build to Jin and Margrid(when I get Razah I'll try with him) but they barely apply Spinter Weapon to themselves and they never applied it to me.

I'm surprised there's nothing to remove a weapon spell(or a preparation or a shout). But then again there are only 4 stance removal skills(all of which are in melee professions to boot) and stances are usually more of a problem. That's just another imbalance in the game. *shrug*

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 11, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Deadlyjunk

"My weapon looks like a piece of grey gunk!"?

Most of the weapon spells actually have better skins than most un-spelled weapon skins

Scythe, daggers, and hammer being prime examples.

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Does seem a little bit unbalanced seeing as weapon spells cannot be removed. As long as you have someone maintaining a weapon spell on you, you have a permanent +15% damage.

That will help ritualists get groups in PvE, which is a very good thing since Ritualist is not part of the Holy Trinity

I generally help low-level ritualists get started when I see one in SJM and have some spare time, but mostly I think it's hard for ritualists to find groups in most areas.